Gender Wars

Last week, I happened across a post entitled, “Should Men Get Married?” that caused a ton of controversy (read the comments section). In response, more authors in the conservative blogosphere started to weigh in on the subject, and they, too, seemed to create controversy.

It’s a little hard for me to determine what, exactly, the problem is, because there are a number of incredibly angry people out there making different points with vehemence and vitriol… Some common themes seem to be:

  • The legal neutering of men when in disputes with women
  • The decline of traditional morals and degeneracy of our culture at large
  • The tearing-down of men, especially by the media — alternately, they are portrayed as bumbling idiots or crazed violence-mongers
  • The knee-jerk response: “Hey, wait, plenty of women are still being victimized! Men don’t have a monopoly on suffering…”
  • The sour grapes response: “My ex-wife was a [fill in the appropriate expletive here] and now I hate all women!”

When I first read the original post (and some of the comments), my response was a profound melancholy. I could completely see where the anger of so many of the responses were coming from, and agree that, in today’s society, the balance has shifted and women usually have the advantage in any dispute, whether they deserve it or not. I’ve seen that happen in the lives of people I know and love. However, what really blows me away is the directed anger toward not just one person or a small group of people, but at an entire gender.

I recognize that I shouldn’t be surprised–there’s a certain type of institutionalized man-hating in culture at large, and it’s only natural that it should go both ways… But it’s sad to see everyone hating everyone else. I’m used to this in politics; for the moment it seems inevitable (even if it’s stupid–after all, no person is the Devil Incarnate), but must it spill over into every other aspect of life as well? Why can’t we just treat people on a case-by-case basis, as we go about our lives, with no preconceived notions (OK, that’s probably impossible, but at least with as few blatantly biased preconceived notions as possible)?

Right now we’ve got a cultural emphasis on the idea that the victim is always right… And thus groups jockey for victim status and the benefits they’d be entitled to, as a consequence. Women, historically more likely to be victimized than men, have capitalized on this in modern society, to the point where now the scales have been turned: the weaker (the victims) really do dominate the stronger (the oppressors)…

However, for sustainability, this power structure depends on the enthusiastic buy-in of all parties, victims and oppressors alike. Which requires some sense of moral absolutes, some guarantee of gentility on everyone’s part. But we’re tearing down all the moral absolutes we can lay hands on, and what you’re left with, in the absence of religiously-motivated morals, is the “will to power”. And lets face it: as soon as there are no vestiges of the old religious morals, there will be no reason for the historical oppressors to go back to oppressing, based on (*gasp*) the universals of strength, power, and desire to dominate. Violence is always the lowest common denominator in power struggles, and violent struggles are won by people who are exceptionally strong or (more rarely) exceptionally smart. I don’t think that most of our current “professional victims” are either.

All of which suggests that the logical consequence of continuing down our current path will see the overthrow of all the favored victimized groups by some very angry, re-energized oppressors. I, for one, would rather exist in a society where there were expectations of reasonable behavior placed upon women (as well as on men), but where people pretty much got along with one another, than in a society where men are out to crush the women because they’ve been crushed, belittled, and disenfranchized as long as they can remember. And we could very well be headed to the latter if we don’t wake up and try to fix the brokenness between the genders.

Edited to add: Oh, now see? I just found an essay that, essentially, solves the problem. Consider the character of the person in question and keep your head in the game as you’re evaluating marriage. Duh!

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10 Comments on “Gender Wars”

  1. Robin Says:

    I’m dealing with a related situation

    Please see the battle I’m fighting to get a man who advocates violence against women off blogger. could you do a post and encourage your readers to sign my petition to end the hate? Thank you. Robin Steele

    http://robinsteele.blogspot.com

  2. MInTheGap Says:

    Hey, nice blog you have here, and some interesting topics. You might want to consider actually copying the picture and hosting it yourself rather than hotlinking from my site, though. If you need any help doing it, let me know!

  3. Timm Severud Says:

    Captn’

    And the Hermit Smiles….

    A mere refugee from reality again

  4. James Van Leuvaan Says:

    So I read this blog entry and thought to myself huh… a woman who isn’t writing about making all men eunuch, nor is there any of the emotional extremist rhetoric or combative fluidity that tends to go along with a blog such as this one, and thought to myself huh! good on you! Of course I also thought heh, right, if I write something like this then I’m going to be evil, or mentally unstable, or a chauvinist with insults ranging from “you have a small penis” to “no wonder you’re single” to “you need therapy” which then of course… me being me… has decided to write a blog about it just because of that :D

    After all, where is the fun in this if we can’t take a stick and shake the grass to find the snakes now…. this was very interesting…

    now… about that comment by robinsteele.blogspot.com…. uhhhh ok… free speech? Remember what that is?

    Being an american citizen is advanced membership. It means screaming one’s viewpoints at the top of their lungs, while someone across the street is screaming their viewpoint at the top of their lungs which happens to be a complete contradictory viewpoint.

    You don’t have to like the viewpoint, but you have to swallow it. Whether or not you like it, otherwise it isn’t freedom, or free speech. It’s fascism. Period.

    (sorry I wrote this on your blog, but well… if other people read comments like I do, then they should see free speech in all its glory).

    J

  5. Kjirstin Says:

    You know, it’s true… I once logged into a chatroom in the early days of AOL on a guy’s screenname and said something that (I thought) was measured and logical about men, women, etc. I was shocked by the people–women, mostly–who immediately started raising a stink about how I was a male chauvinist and oppressing women, etc.

    Very weird (and enlightening) situation. You guys aren’t usually facing a friendly crowd, are you?

  6. James Van Leuvaan Says:

    True enough in regards to cyber space, however, all things being equal. Everyone is a keyboard warrior free from prosecution and shrapnel at the safety of their own laptops…

    I don’t find - personally - that it really is that much of a problem in person, though if it is, it’s well hidden, or I’m oblivious - though most likely a combination of both… though i do have a tendency to purposely ignore anything beyond what happens to have my attention at that particular moment… but then I’m sure you understand that…

    I followed that one blog, and then ended up at the blog where that one blog was ranting on here, and well… in a nutshell?

    same dysfunction, different person. They’re not worth the attention, because ultimately they both need a hug, a lobotomy, and lithium… though not necessarily in that order.

  7. James Van Leuvaan Says:

    on a side note.. now that i’ve read both of those listed articles and researched it a bit this evening, I have only to conclude that my previous choices are sound and intelligent and I am on the safe train to forever.

    1: Do not even entertain the concept of marrying any woman in the english speaking world since the statistical rates for Americans, is and has started to seap into the other anglophile cultures; leaving basically the rest of the world - which isn’t really that bad actually. As an immigrant myself I have met overwhelmingly strong women who are independent yet, with a higher value and understanding of what marriage is in relationship to what love is, and also tend to come from examples of social and historical foundational strength.
    2: Wear a cast iron jock-strap when I start shopping state side for Xmas incase some crazed women decides to find who I am and stalk me and castrate me.
    3: Pay by the hour.
    4: just joking on 3, everyone knows self love is the best love.

  8. SC&A Says:

    Good- and cogent post.

    In the end, too many people view relationships as a ‘what’s in it for me’ deal, rather than an elevating. ‘what’s in it for us’ reality.

    Elevate the relationship and you elevate your partner. Elevate your partner and you elevate yourself.

  9. Looking Glass Says:

    John Ross writes of his divorce in a positive, proactive style Marriage II

    After

    I thought I might never see my daughter again, and I felt something let go in my head. Suddenly my speech was slurred and I felt off-balance.

    It turned out my blood pressure had spiked to 230/145 and I’d had a stroke right there outside the judge’s chambers. A few hours later, my entire right side was paralyzed and I was lying in a hospital bed, idly wondering if I’d ever walk again.

  10. Looking Glass Says:

    I hit post by accident. Sorry. The paragraphs in the previous post are quoted from John Ross. The whole thing needs to be read.

    But here’s some of his practical advice.

    ‘a good marriage takes a lot of work.’ No, it doesn’t. Bad marriages take lots of work. Good marriages are easy. When was the last time you heard a guy with his cute girlfriend sitting on his lap tell you ‘having a girlfriend takes a lot of work?’

    If you are unhappy with the things your wife does, it’s not going to improve. End it now and have more time left to find the right woman and have a good relationship with her.

    From cheapseatview at blogspot.
    In the past, I’ve heard some of my married friends tell me privately that their wife is not the woman they married. Years ago, a pal of mine from Madison and I were out for lunch. He told me flat out that she changed 180 degrees from before and after marriage. Once the honeymoon was over, so was the sex. Suddenly, he couldn’t do anything right. He said that he thought she was the sweetest person in the world before the wedding. Yet, she became, his words, a ‘Royal Bitch’ almost immediately after the honeymoon. I’ve heard this from others, as well.

    Some men interrupt their honeymoons to file for immediate divorce due to this. They’re the smart ones. John Ross has more on this in the link above.

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