This is a continuation of the discussion from my previous post “truth v. Truth“, because the comment that I started writing there got too big.
Sigh. This is what I meant when I talked about existing in different universes. I do not claim to know the Truth, but that I believe there is such a thing as Truth, and that just because something feels right or seems right, it is not necessarily right.
Such as: A teenager may be thoroughly convinced that their breakup with a boyfriend/girlfriend is a pain that will never go away (and thus consider suicide or something like that). While it is understandable that, with no prior experience to the contrary, they would feel this way, any person who’s been through a couple of breakups could tell them that, given time, the pain will subside and they’ll even be happy again someday. When it comes down to it, the teenager doesn’t just have “another reality” but, indeed, is wrong in his or her interpretation of reality.
In a greater sense, I think all we humans are rather like that inexperienced teenager. We can make educated guesses about reality, but we don’t have the final answers. No criteria that come from within me will be capable of filtering out Truth from guesses–however, it’s likely that as I grow up, gain experience, observe and use my brain, I will be better able to tell what is real from what is fantasy.
This is why I believe it’s so important to study the people who’ve come before us–if our whole life is about reinventing the wheel, we’re never going to get much further than a person can progress in a lifetime. Whereas, if we take to heart the wisdom of those who have come before us (but of course apply critical thinking to what they tell us, rather than just swallowing everything whole), we’ve got a head start, and the possibility of progressing farther in wisdom than we would have otherwise.
If the teenager I spoke of before had a heart-to-heart with an older person, and accepted that they might have a valid point about the transitory nature of heartbreak, that teenager would be nearer the Truth than a teenager who refused to listen to anyone who’d been there before, insisted that his or her own experience was unprecedented and worse than any that had come before, and was set in that mindset.
If there can be such a thing as “criteria” from which we can approximate knowledge of absolute truth, I guess it would have to be based on something akin to “by their works you shall know them”. A society that is operating in a way that is closer to the Truth will tend to have less dysfunction, less crime, less disrespect between people, and less devaluing of human lives, than a society operating with a set of moral and ethical standards that is, to put it bluntly, wrong.
Of course this isn’t a matter of black and white–we’re dealing with human beings here, and we don’t have binary values. Along a continuum, every society, and every person, will be operating with a set of ethical standards that is closer or further to that which is really right. And different people–or societies–might be right in different areas, even as they are wrong in others. Unfortunately, in and of ourselves, we have no way to know absolutely what the right is. Our greatest moral guidance comes from sacred scripture, and yet even that can be interpreted so diversely as to be unrecognizable.
And at this point is where the dichotomy exists: either you believe that there is a standard we’re measured against, or you don’t. I happen to believe that there is such a standard, because I see the kind of hurtful depravity that we sink into, as societies, when we believe that we have all the answers in and of ourselves.
I know myself well enough to know that I don’t have all the answers. (I sometimes pretend I do, but I know better than that!) All I have are guesses–sometimes good guesses, sometimes not, sometimes informed, sometimes complete WAGs. But I also believe that, at some point, my life, my knowledge and my morals will be measured against a pre-existing, external standard, and I am trying to do my best to “measure up”.
I think why I get so frustrated with our country sometimes is because no one seems to be trying to figure out what is right, and no one is willing to alter their behavior or beliefs when they’ve been proven wrong. Does no one learn???
If nothing else, I am trying to make my life about learning and becoming better and being more right than I was when I started out. I might make a million dead-end turns along the way, but I’ll keep learning from every one of those.



Thursday, 4 October 2007 at 17:14 |
Capt’n
I gave up trying to convince the world of anything after I repainted my first car a 1964 Ford Fairlane… It have 32 miles on it and was 8 years old when I bought it. The owner died the day after buying it and her husband put it up on blocks… it was a great car, a good buy except for one thing, it was pink… So I spent $800 for a complete paint job – pine green with silver metal flaking and black chrome. It was stunning, I took it to school and the girl I was trying to impress got in and the first thing she did was open the glove box… the interior was pink. shhh perfection is such a tough standard.
I too am a student of history and see it as the most important study and the best history is first person rather that filter through the opinions of a few more generations. It is from this study that I have discovered there is a form of government far preferable to democracy… It is a very old form of government built on concensus building… Community is built by getting along and being kind to one another…
Last night as I was sitting thinking about such foolishness as truth… I remembered something I wrote after watching a show… my apologizes to Babylon 5 Season 5 Episode 2
Unity’s Law
We are many individuals seeking to speak with one voice, the human one. We come from many beliefs, Agnostics, Animist, Christian, Hebrew, Hindu, Humanist, Islamist, Taoist, Zoroastrian and on… but we hear the same small ‘placid water’ voice.
It speaks in the language of trust and love, it is the language of the soul and heart. But it is always the same voice, it is the of the grandparents whispering to us, it is the voice of the grandchildren waiting for us to speak,
It is the small ‘placid water’ voice that now says “We are One! No matter the color, no matter the profession, no matter the possessions. We are One! No matter the ancestry, no matter the book, no matter the vision, We Are One! No matter this physical strength, no matter the hatred, no matter the fear. We are One!”
It says, “Gather together with a common cause, and agree to recognize this singular truth, and this singular law. We Must Be Kind to One Another. Each voice gained ennobles and enables us. Each voice lost diminishes us. We are light of the past. We are the voice of humanity. We are the only path to the future, for ‘We are One!’”
Thursday, 4 October 2007 at 17:49 |
Hello, I enjoyed both your post and the powerful comments by Tim Severud. Thank you.
If you at all have time, please visit my devotional blog today. There are a couple of questions there I want to ask you. Just take a few minutes. Thank you very much.
Blessings always,
Shirley Buxton
http://www.shirleybuxton.wordpress.com
Friday, 5 October 2007 at 10:46 |
Thank you. That clears thing up quite a bit. Any chance I can get an example?
Friday, 5 October 2007 at 16:01 |
“We Must Be Kind to One Another” Must???? That’s an imperative that has no basis in fact or logic. A noble wish, perhaps, but no more substantial than wishing that those mean old killer whales would stop eating those cute baby harp seals.
Friday, 5 October 2007 at 17:38 |
Paul, I think I need clarification as to what kind of example you want…
By the way, this is an endemic problem for me–I tend to think, talk, and write in terms of sweeping generalizations, especially when we get to the philosophical underpinnings of life. On more than one occasion I’ve had a professor comment to me, “That’s all very nice, but give me an example that illustrates your point.”
I did try to do so with the broken-up teenager idea…
Tuesday, 16 October 2007 at 13:08 |
mr bua thinks he is the truth. give me candy.
Wednesday, 17 October 2007 at 19:19 |
Sounds like Timm is talking about what’s conventionally (fearfully) known as anarchism. Very often we get distracted by the labels that have been attached to labels and don’t consider the actual idea because we’re too busy being frightened by the stories our grandparents told us about the label.
It was a wise man who said, “Learn from history, because you’ll never live long enough to make all those mistakes yourself.”